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Troublemaker:
--- Quote from: MadMax on November 16, 2015, 11:58:29 pm ---u'd be suprised how multicultular they are. in poland we got russians, gyspies, people from turkey, ukraine and so on, just multicultular but mostly christian or christian-related ones
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But the difference is that in Poland 95% percent of population considers themselves as Polish, while those you named are just small minorities.
btw. in that video's description, it says "...HOWEVER, the monstrous, dangerous, murderous religious sect called Islam represents an enormous threat to LIBERTY and to the the freedom loving citizens of the CIVILIZED WESTERN WORLD..." - while we can argue what is exactly the "western world", it seems that the uploader think that "eastern world" countries like Russia, China or Japan are not civilized... and that's ridiculous.
MadMax:
Western world is West Europe, USA and so on. Areas where we got freedom or at least big amount and feeling of it. Noone is obsesed with their points of view, and noone forces anyone to belive something.
China and North Korea lacks freedom, almost everything is limited or banned, Russia kind of too, Japan and South Korea are tootally diffrent case. They are outstanding to anything.
There is also India but compared to advanced West, they are far away.
Troublemaker:
--- Quote from: MadMax on November 17, 2015, 09:21:10 pm ---Western world is West Europe, USA and so on. Areas where we got freedom or at least big amount and feeling of it. Noone is obsesed with their points of view, and noone forces anyone to belive something.
China and North Korea lacks freedom, almost everything is limited or banned, Russia kind of too, Japan and South Korea are tootally diffrent case. They are outstanding to anything.
There is also India but compared to advanced West, they are far away.
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But they are also civilized, aren't they? Maybe they are trying to keep the traditional values of their culture by banning/disallowing most of the capitalist things?
SuperJames:
Someone pass me rain mod link please?
MadMax:
--- Quote from: Troublemaker on November 17, 2015, 09:50:18 pm ---
--- Quote from: MadMax on November 17, 2015, 09:21:10 pm ---Western world is West Europe, USA and so on. Areas where we got freedom or at least big amount and feeling of it. Noone is obsesed with their points of view, and noone forces anyone to belive something.
China and North Korea lacks freedom, almost everything is limited or banned, Russia kind of too, Japan and South Korea are tootally diffrent case. They are outstanding to anything.
There is also India but compared to advanced West, they are far away.
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But they are also civilized, aren't they? Maybe they are trying to keep the traditional values of their culture by banning/disallowing most of the capitalist things?
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I's not just capitalism, they also ban culture and entertainment
China got almost everything banned or censored. DVD/Movies or music is almost not distributed, 90% files are pirated, coz can't legally be bought. In additon Chinese have shitload of censoring and fucking up shows, many movies aren't shown and artists are avoiding China, and if they somehow do, then get this:
Megadeth ended too soon
http://www.metalinjection.net/shocking-revelations/megadeths-beijing-concert-ends-abruptly-allegedly-due-to-censorship-confirmed
Bon Jovi canceled
http://time.com/4026027/bon-jovi-concert-canceled-china-tibet-dalai-lama/
Maroon 5 canceled too
http://shanghaiist.com/2015/07/17/maroon-5-concert-canceled-dalai-lama-meeting.php
Jay-Z censored... yeah rap censoed, nice shit chinese govs
http://freemuse.org/archives/760
http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/22/news/taylor-swift-1989-china/
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1338629-katy-perrys-taiwan-concert-costume-is-censored-in-china-while-netizens-debate-ban/
movies also are banned, for example Pirates of the Caribbean were banned
they just do not allow anything, this is from Chinese guy on some music forum.
--- Quote ---I live in Shanghai, China, Maroon 5 and Bon Jovi were cancelled because of political reasons, M5 wished an old man happy 80th birthday and BJ had an offensive image in one of their videos (this was helpfully sent to the authorities here by Taiwanese BJ fans!). Metallica weren't allowed to play Master or One. Megadeth weren't allowed to play Holy Wars, with the authorities at the last minute banning songs. I spoke with the promoter who said that the authorities had big problems with the image of Rattlehead*! The problem is that officials here are quite arbitrary about what songs they don't allow, The Rolling Stones weren't allowed to play Brown Sugar but could play Satisfaction. Muse recently changed their setlist.
A lot of concerts here aren't confirmed to quite close to the show, Megadeth was only confirmed about 6 weeks out. There is still 5 months to the possible shows.
The 2 Metallica shows here were fantastic huge buzzing atmosphere beforehand. Crowd really loved them, band had big grins.
Metallica sold about 25,000 tickets in Shanghai over 2 shows, Muse 10,000 (7,500 in Beijing), Bon Jovi's concerts in Beijing and Shanghai had stupidly high prices and so had been selling terribly before their "convenient" cancellation, Megadeth only 2,500 in a venue which holds 9,000, Slash had a 1,100 tickets sellout in 30 minutes, Avenged Sevenfold only did about 800 tickets, Coheed and Cambria (not kidding) the promotor was letting Chinese in for free as they had sold less than 100 tickets! I saw The Scorpions at a festival earlier this year about 100 miles from Shanghai and there were 20,000 kids who knew the words to all the songs, very weird!
Taylor Swift is playing 3 concerts in Shanghai this week (all sold out, saw her last year she put on a good show), the shows were almost cancelled because Taylor launched a clothes line over here called TS 1989, harmless enough (her initials and year of birth / album title) but for historical reasons ... well it didn't go down well. Katy Perry did 2 shows (saw one, good fun) and some locals got upset that some of the colours used during the concert meant something political. Alas, some performers like Bjork and Elton John have come here and shot their mouths off on stage about things they shouldn't talk about so gigs then get shelved. We have had a number of Swedish Death metal bands pass through they who have hadn't problems with their lyrics.
Very difficult to buy official music here, everyone downloads for free! I tried to buy the new rather brilliant Def Leppard album as a download from Amazon.uk they wouldn't allow me so i downloaded for free, doesn't make sense.
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they try over interpreting anything and link everything to politicy, best example with that Swift, seriously, having trouble with TS 1989 name?
* Rattlehead is Megadeth 'logo' kind of, it's based on "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil"
http://31.media.tumblr.com/384c5fd611616ae82291ac6b6338dde5/tumblr_meqg51nFOv1qajttno1_500.jpg
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