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--- Quote from: MadMax on November 16, 2015, 10:22:32 pm ---Trouble, unemployment is actually probably the biggest factor, aside culture diffrences.

Read carefully. I m gonna use Germany as example as it is best to do.
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Situation now:
Germany is one of main countries in Europe, with leading incomes and generally good working industry and business.
Germany is full of people in productive age, working and paying taxes. Taxes paid allow germans to have big social care and refounds.
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Situation in 20-30 years future, if hypotetically muslim take more or less 40% population:
Germany isn't stong anymore. Mostly of immigrants (who were accepted and let in in 2015/2016) have many kids, who have another loads of kids. They do not work, only are on social care.
Overal amount people in productive age is reduced. Less people work, so less people pay taxes. Less taxes paid, lead to situation where country budget isn't that big as before.
Social care and other refounds are taken from constantly decreasing budget. Goes like that for few years. At some point taxes income isn't big enough to make sure social care and other refounds be keep on. Social is decreased. People who were on it, are getting angry. We talk about huge amount of people. At some point social is so low or totally taken out. These unhappy people masses go out on streets, demand getting social back. Government can't do it, coz country budget isn't enough for it. People co crazy and start riots, they say they are threaten bad and so on.
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This is one of main problems with immigrants. Not terrorism, coz it can be done by anyone.

Look on example of USA, it was made mostly by immigrants, but due to lack of social care, they were forced to start working.

The only right choice it to take immigrants, BUT do not give them any financial help. They have to work their stay here, not just comming for money.

As You said, such situation isn't big problem in Grece, Poland, Hungary and so on. Thats coz we have extremally low money offered in social care.
There were group of immigrants we helped them here. They had home, food and basics to live. You know what they did after 2 weeks? Escaped to Germany.
They were totally save here, coz no war all around, but just not enough money given. One of them, when found out he is gonna be located in Poland, said that "if this is case, then I'mma back to Siria/Turkey". Some escape war, agree but mostly just go to rich countries, thats all. Grece, Italy, Hungary or ex-soviet block isn't intresting place for them. They aim Germany, France, UK or north, scandinavian countries - Norway, Sweden.

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Sheeeit that's awesome you should make a movie about it, it'd be like new MadMax movies. I'm even sure Mel Gibson would love to star in it, he'd be the Sauerkraut Warrior or something. 100% would watch. Blockbuster.

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--- Quote from: SuperJames on November 17, 2015, 10:11:28 pm ---Someone pass me rain mod link please?

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[MAF]Cthulhu:
A little different situation but still fitting..



It's kind of sad that people who wish to demonstrate and express their justified opinions about what's happening in their country have piles of shit falling on their heads by the authorities who seem to stand against them rather than behind.

Sweden has recently released information into the media what's been really happening in their country for more than a year. Internet censorship is worse than ever before, the freedom of speech is disappearing.

I wonder how long people are going to accept the dictatorship of EU and their commisioners and members of the parliament, who are poorly threatening them by cutting off their funds if they don't do as they say. I wonder how long this is going to last before people will take it into their own hands, and it feels like something really interesting is going to happen soon. Because this can't last forever. :blank:

Events in history repeat themselves.

nero:
I hope you do realize that the last picture from Cologne shows right-wing extremists from the "hooligan" fraction "protesting". And by protesting, they mean starting shit with the police because, well, they like to start shit with the police (just one year before a right wing protest group trashed half the city).

[MAF]Cthulhu:
I know it was them who were attacking. But the actual protests were organized by PEGIDA, which is only a political movement as far as I know, and the water cannons were used on them, too. And people such as patriots and women who are against sexual harassments and assaults aren't extremists in my opinion. That term is used way too much anyway, almost everyone who doesn't agree with the government is called an extremist or a radical. It's the same in our country, don't worry.

Anyway, you can't just expect people to stand back and do nothing. The sunday attacks were caused by such people because nobody else would have the guts to do so. And that's what worries me, that it might be a start of something worse. Because majority of people, I dare to say, share the same opinion in the situation.

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