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Unstable fps on HD 4650
« on: November 13, 2013, 08:25:29 pm »
hi, i got a litte problem

well my old good 8600GT died, so had to take spare card bro bought while ago (HD 4650)

in theory it got better specs than 860GT, but in game it is rather unstable
(8600GT 256, HD4650 1024)!

example on DoubleYou
8600GT reached 92-93 fps (/fpslimit 90) and 96 with off
HD 4650 giives olny about 70-80 there (/fpslimit 90) and same values with off
moreover, in one worlds or sk where 8600GT used to give me playable framerate (60-70) this one drops to partetic 25-35 fps :S

any ideas whats wrong with it? got any good drivers or helpful tools?


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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2013, 08:30:37 pm »
wait for jalicno lol


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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2013, 08:48:09 pm »
already got these drivers, and as i said, thery 4650 is better but somehow i got worse results than old 8600

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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2013, 09:05:49 pm »
HD 4650 should be by about 50% faster, so there is definitely something wrong here.
try to get some monitoring tools, like MSI afterburner, and check is it working on normal frequency (600MHz) and are the temperatures under 85C.

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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2013, 10:29:20 pm »
Check anti aliasing settings

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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2013, 11:55:58 pm »
i set everything lowst possible
btw fps drops happen only in SA
Tomb Raider Underworld or TDU2 works lot better than on my old card

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Offline [AK47]Tommy_Vicious

Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2013, 07:39:37 am »
Are you on windows xp or 7?

A friend of mine had the  same card and the same problem: we tried everything but it seems like old radeon cards (like 3xxx -4xxx series) have unstable fps on DirectX 9 games on win7. when he switched back to xp , his fps went normal.

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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2013, 03:51:28 pm »
i got XP, 32bit
strange it that fps drops happen in SA only, newer games are working lot better than on 8600GT

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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2013, 02:29:10 am »
ATI catalyst never was friendly to this game i could honestly say that cause since 2005 i have played on X1650,2600XT,HD3650,HD4850 and last 3 years HD6850.
Since 9.1 version till updated 13.x they didn't made much progress,ironically some options in Catalyst Center were disabled or made game total unplayedable...with low FPS,Shader or Vertical sync problems

As you said all other games runs smooth instead of just GTA:SA

On many webpages you can find similar posts to this one

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I find this strange but, Catalyst 12.8 is kindoff faster than the 12.9 and 12.10?? the difference are on the FPS,,, is there anyone having this?? I have an Powercolor hd6850

Solution exist but you must be patient to find what you looking for.

Easiest way is to completely uninstall Catalyst Control Center and ATI drivers in general and give try to Omega Drivers, they run fine without MS Framework so it will use less resources on your PC which result better performance and probably decent FPS on this game.  (I am not 100% sure there is support for your model cause website has been down in moment when i checked support list)

Or if you want play with CCC drivers try some older version as 9.8, 10.3, 11.12 or some what match with your model of card...12.6 is latest designed for 4xxx series

Its been long time ago since i sold my 4850
« Last Edit: November 15, 2013, 03:39:07 am by [LSR]Jalicno »

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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2013, 05:38:22 pm »
a little bump,

what would you suggest as replacement?
keep on mind i got 400W PSU so really strong ones are out

9600/9800 or something like that would be good?
don't wanna getting lot better one, as soon (maybe next year) gonna get new computer tho.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2013, 05:54:10 pm by MadMax »

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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2013, 08:01:17 pm »
Get a HD 6670 for the time being if you are upgrading in a year or so, it will do sa-mp at 100fps no problem.

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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2013, 09:25:31 pm »
Even birds know about G92  chip(8800/9800) ... but temperature and heavy load on PSU make me sure to not suggest you any of them.

Since you are stuck with 400W there are not many models on list, probably best is 6450 in low end budged segment - cost around 30 euro.

There are many old/used cards by same price but i am afraid your motherboard and rest of components going handle that well.



For sure 6670 is good offer as Andy said but price is higher by double if i am correct,so there comes question is it worth buying that if you plan change completely PC in short period....

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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2013, 09:26:56 pm »
Maybe find another used or new 8600GT on eBay or something

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Re: Unstable fps on HD 4650
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2013, 09:33:41 pm »
ye this is what i would do, but wondering if isn't better just replace it by bit better model, if so

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