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New FPS rule sucks
Gornall43:
Look this new FPS rule is completely stupid and really we should go back to he old ways, it was fine then why can't it be fine now?
Reasons for it
-"FPS abuse is annoying"
- FPS abuse is noobish and unfair
Reasons against it
-People with shit PC's can't always make records
-It only works sometimes e.g. I have had fps limiter on in a plane race once and it didn't let me have the record, the next time it did....
-All the records that currently stand can't be beaten and are unfair, and there are far too many to go back and clear records
-it's the way it's always been and it's just part of the game
- It's players own loss if they choose not to FPS abuse or even use it strategically
- It sometimes says "record making deactivated at any random time"
So I think we should just go back to the old ways
[MAF]mooman:
--- Quote from: [FSR]Gornall43 on July 23, 2013, 06:00:53 pm ----People with shit PC's can't always make records
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Nor can people with shit pings. GTA:SA is not the most demanding game and we can't hold ourselves back for the sake of a few people who refuse to upgrade.
--- Quote from: [FSR]Gornall43 on July 23, 2013, 06:00:53 pm ----It only works sometimes e.g. I have had fps limiter on in a plane race once and it didn't let me have the record, the next time it did....
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If the implementation is flawed that says nothing about the idea
--- Quote from: [FSR]Gornall43 on July 23, 2013, 06:00:53 pm ----All the records that currently stand can't be beaten and are unfair, and there are far too many to go back and clear records
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So what's the alternative? Force everyone to start FPS abusing so that's it's fair again? I think it's fairer and easier just ban what the minority is unfairly doing. And there may be a lot of records to delete but compared to the alternative you're proposing it's the lesser of two evils.
--- Quote from: [FSR]Gornall43 on July 23, 2013, 06:00:53 pm ----it's the way it's always been and it's just part of the game
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FPS abuse is a new "innovation" and even though it was always part of the game (for boats, for example) it is stil extremely annoying to do. By not allowing it, we free ourselves from the need to make our games borderline unplayable
--- Quote from: [FSR]Gornall43 on July 23, 2013, 06:00:53 pm ---- It's players own loss if they choose not to FPS abuse or even use it strategically
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You could say this for any kind of abuse. "Oh yeah well everyone uses lamp mods so it's your loss if you don't", "it's your loss if you want to run 100m and not take steroids". In both those cases and the case of FPS abuse, the fair thing to do is to ban the obviously unfair techniques of winning to allow everyone to play fairly
--- Quote from: [FSR]Gornall43 on July 23, 2013, 06:00:53 pm ---- It sometimes says "record making deactivated at any random time"
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Not sure what that means
--- Quote from: [FSR]Gornall43 on July 23, 2013, 06:00:53 pm ---So I think we should just go back to the old ways
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Why? Do you really care about players with terrible PCs? Do you not care about the players who can't even use FPS limit properly? (it doesn't work for everyone) Wouldn't you rather play without all this stress about FPS or are your old records too hard to let go of?
Gornall43:
lol and what can I say...
Never mind then it would seem i have been over ruled.
pajk:
I kinda like the new fps rule but its pretty unfair that all records with boats/ planes can't be beaten from now.. imo we should just delete those records one by one, i know theres lots of them
[MAF]Karlis:
--- Quote from: [FSR]Gornall43 on July 23, 2013, 06:00:53 pm ----It only works sometimes e.g. I have had fps limiter on in a plane race once and it didn't let me have the record, the next time it did....
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then report when and how it happens, i can't fix thing that i have no info (or even knowledge of existing) to.
--- Quote from: [FSR]Gornall43 on July 23, 2013, 06:00:53 pm ---- It sometimes says "record making deactivated at any random time"
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it means you have a lag spike which drops your fps under the limit.
i will fine-tune it eventually, so it is not that unforgiving.
and pajko, we will delete the records, but first we need to build up a base of new and fair ones.
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