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General => Off-Topic => Topic started by: [MAF]Sighmoan on November 24, 2010, 02:38:53 pm
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This is really for everyone who isn't in the Uk
I'm just interested in whether these are being covered by the news in your country?
If so, what is the general angle of the reporting?
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no news about it in Poland
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Umm there was plenty of coverage about the one a couple of weeks ago. Was there another one recently?
Either way we already pay through the nose for degrees in Australia >:(
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we have student protests this monday.. they want us to pay for each year of delay we have... 3000 euro...
means if it comes through I'm 3000 euro poorer and bankrupt.. :s
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Vert, there is another one today, but it is far smaller than the one on the 10th November.
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haha change of title
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I've a flair for the dramatic ;)
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LoL Portugal has stoped today. No public transp, no schools, pretty mucht everything didn't work as normal today...
Ps: for the positive side, i'd get to sleep all day.
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Haven't really watched the news today to be honest simon lol.
You should see Greece, they have strikes every second day lmao. So damn lazy.
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xaxa
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Probably Spain will need a 'little' help from EU that's the news here :-X
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I saw it on the news. People were climbing some building's wall, I didn't pay attention at that xD Also Lisabona's airport was down today. It is said that Portugal might be the third country which has taken that big loan. If this will keep happening and it definitely will, whole EU is going to suffer badly...
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EU is going to hell...
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there's some stuff in the news, but they are not telling much, whats going on over there?
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Not enough money to rescue all the countries... :-\ I wish Spain won't fuck up the situation
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Photo of the day from the protests in London yesterday:
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/blinkofaneye/5204176793/sizes/m/
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update:
watched it in night tv news
btw, nice fight
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The damage your riots are causing will cost you more money than paying for your studies. GG!
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If Spain fuckes up the EU is going to hell, because Spain got a really big economy and we can't give them enough money as EU...
Btw, I wish the EU was just NL, Belgium, Germany, GB, Scandinavia.. or something.
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you are seriously or joking?
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Serious, other countries just cause shit. Netherlands is the most paying country proportionally, maybe even in absolute cash.. but I don't know. I know NL have a lot of benefits.. but shit like Greece, Ireland, Portugal and maybe Spain is not helping us.. this costs us money.
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hehe you're confirming my point of view of the nordic people (english + scandinavian + germans, including the small countries) that are quite chauvinist.
And to defend my point that EU shouldn't be only the richest countries, well those countries would lose quite a lot of money if they "cut" the links with the others... it helps them too with the export, they can export more since the other european countries don't have to pay many taxes for importing european products, and about the help to greece... germany and france are going to win hundreads of millions with the interest rates (over 8% if i remember well...), quite similar for the other countries in high debt. And another thing I hated about germany (ok it's not NL you'll say... but you want it in your EU) is how the medias insulted greeks, angayla merkel telling that they have to lower every spend of the state... except for weaponry, since gayrmany makes billions from selling weaps to greece. (around 1 every year only for germany, more for france) In the same time, we pretend that the EU is a pacific organization. Bullshit. It's a rapists organization imo.
If the so called PIGS (thanks english medias for insulting foreigners because of their economy... now you can also insult your own people) Portugal Italy Greece Spain went to leave the EU, or just the euro zone, it would be very bad for them, but also very bad for the other countries, and mainly the wealthy countries like France, UK, germany, benelux...
Now I mainly talked about greece cause that's the one i know more, but i'm pretty sure we could say many other things about the other countries.
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You're right on most points.. we all need eachother in the end.. but that doesn't mean countries like Greece can fuck up the EU. We all need eachother so we all should work for it, imo Greece went a bit lame just because they were "in" and thought everything would be fine..
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yes greece is the main responsible for what happenend, same for every country, just wanted to point out that other countries where many ppl like to criticize, even insult, aren't much better.
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From the little i know about the Greece situation, i thought they got in their pickle because they kept increasing public sector wages (possibly to buy voters and keep them in power? i don't know) and major tax evasion.
The tax evasion is no doubt a cultural thing as some countries see 'beating the system' and getting a way with it as ok and it is ingrained in their culture, more so than other countries.
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About the high public sector wages idk, but I know there are a lot of public employees in Greece, probably the highest rate of public employees compared to the number of active people in Europe si even if the wages aren't high it costs a lot to the State. And tax evasion is very high too, yes...
Back on topic, the only things I've seen about the protests was on the "no comment" part of euronews... I don't remember seeing anything about it in the news of yesterday.
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I saw there was a student protest in Italy too.
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Students in the UK are planning more protests for Tuesday 30th November.
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What do student protests mean? Are they the expression of a very bad going economy? Students are usually the first to protest, because they are young and wild.
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Can anyone summarise for me what's happening in the EU atm? :-\
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wish i knew lol
not enough money i think
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In the NLs the government wants the students to pay 3000 euro for every year of delay they have... also for people like me, who are studying for several years already and know they are going to end with a year delay..
I don't know much about the other student protests and their reasons, just that they take place at the same time.
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What do student protests mean? Are they the expression of a very bad going economy? Students are usually the first to protest, because they are young and wild.
Several reasons. The Government is:
1) Removing the EMA for 16-18 year olds. The EMA is an allowance which gives them £30 a week to continue in school.
2) Raise the maximum amount University's can charge a year from £3k to £6k, and up to £9k under special circumstances (which will affect students over 18). This amount will only need to be paid back once the graduates are earning more than £21k, but the amount per month will be less than it is now. This obviously means though that they will be paying it back for longer. These loans are charged interest.
The main thrust is that the government is pushing the troubles with the banks and all these debts onto this generation of learners, when members of the government all went to university for free. The argument is that this will put off or price students from the working and lower middle classes off going to uni, meaning only the rich will be able to afford to go to Uni.
Have a look here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11483638
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Well only the rich/midclass/gifted can afford uni here in asia, lol.
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I don't feel good about what's happening in Europe right now... I really don't feel good with it.
If I need to pay more than I do now I probably can't afford studying. It is the babyboom generation who cost money now.. big money.
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kinda expensive here, about $1000 a quarter, 3 subjects
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I pay 1600 euro a year without books.. just the college and facilities.
Books will be another 500 euro.
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More student protests going on today:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/blog/2010/nov/30/student-protests-live-coverage
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In NL yesterday:
http://translate.google.nl/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=nl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nu.nl%2Fpolitiek%2F2389968%2Fpolitie-zet-mobiele-eenheid-in-bij-studentenprotest.html&act=url
Hm, I just calculated what my costs will be if this rule will be introduced in NL. It will cost me at least 7000 euro extra next year, maybe even 9000. >>>> I'm bankrupt big time.
Anyway the more I think about it the more angry I get... jezus this is FUCKING RIDICILOUS!!!!!!!!
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Today's the day the Government here make the decision on Higher Education funding. Lots more protesting going on outside of Parliament.
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Ye i saw that on tv
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Students are protesting about a fee rise which won't personally affect them. And to do the protesting they are skipping lectures which the government currently subsidises at a cost of £7,000 per person.
WELL DONE: YOU HAVE PROVED OBVIOUSLY DESERVE A SUBSIDISED EDUCATION, SEEING THAT YOU VALUE IT SO MUCH. /////mega sarcasm