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General => AdrenalineX Development => Suggestions => Topic started by: [MAF]Snoopy on October 04, 2010, 03:36:45 am
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MadMax said it would be a better idea to move all tt races to /tt.
at first i hated the idea but i thought about it and i think it'd benefit the server more. i often see new players join the server and complain about racing alone and they leave :(
so i'm all for it now.
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Nah, I don't like that idea, it's nice to race alone in the main race mode sometimes, and there really isn't THAT many TT races.
EDIT: people also leave when they join a race that has 200 checkpoints so people can leave the server for any amount of reasons.
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it makes sense though to have that extra mode and make the most of it
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So you want TT to be removed from the main /race mode and just have it for /tt? I wouldn't like that at all tbh lol.
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lol it would benefit the server too, players wouldn't leave because of it which i see all the time
yes all TT races moved to /TT.
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I made an edit to my first post, people would also leave for 200 checkpoint races, for being rammed too much on a one world race. I really don't see many leaving because they're racing alone, maybe it should just be made more clear that they are only racing alone for that one race.
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those 200 cp races are only in xtrack and there's only a couple of them which don't get loaded anymore, and the majority of players like racing with everyone especially me :(
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I like racing alone, I also HATE GTA IV races, and I can bet that a lot of others don't like that mode either. So lets remove GTA IV while we're at it? :(
But seriously, a lot of people like TT as well I bet, so it'd be annoying if it was exclusive to /tt.
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i don't like gta iv mode either...
well tbh, most people rage into /tt anyway so what's the point in keeping it as a normal mode? :(
it would also stop players learning tt races off by heart in /tt then loading tt races to get the almost impossible record
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GTA IV probably will not be removed and I know that so I'm not trying anymore to get it removed, just trying to say that if any mode was removed from the main racing mode, a lot of people would miss it. There aren't that many TT races anyway. If you think there are too many of them, delete a few, or possibly one of the coders can make an algorithm so that TT races will not come up consecutively, so if a TT race comes up, make it so that the vote menu after that race doesn't have any TT races. It could go for any mode maybe? Just to so other modes could get more exposure. Just an idea.
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There aren't that many TT races anyway.
100+ and for some reason i see them on the vote list more than i see one world races and normal races :S
TT races are boring, it's fun racing with everyone just like how it used to be =/
is it because tt races make it easier to set records? if so then bleh :|
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Everyone likes to get records, and that's part of why I like it so no1 can ruin my chances of getting a record except me. You can make an admin rule about the abuse of /tt and /track loading, I do think that's a legitimate concern, but I don't want to see /tt being totally removed from /race mode.
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bleh, people care about setting records too much instead of trying to benefit the server, it's only numbers lol
so i really hate seeing new players join and get pissy because they can't race with everyone else, what's fun about racing alone though?
you can always go into /tt and set records on your favourite tt races, that won't change.
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I hate a lot of stuff as well, joining when a super long race is on. Joining a GTA IV race only to get all of my passengers bail on me and spawn their own car, or getting an afk person as the driver, it sucks but bleh, it happens :/ there's loads of stuff that would cause new players to leave the server
I don't care that much about records, but it's nice knowing that TT races exist so that I can at least have a 100% chance of getting a record if I try. But you're leading the highscore list atm so you must care a bit :L
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imo keep the TT races that aren't boring and really deserve being TT:
-tricky races
-not too long (< 3 mins, or even 2)
Somme TT races are boring, long, and could even be normal, one world without having too much ramming.
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just because i'm leading the highscore list doesn't mean i care, do you want me to remove all my records to prove it to you?
i'm sorry that i race fast and that i set records.
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Ok, lets not get all serious here lol
I just don't want TT races to be removed, there are much better contenders, like crappy GTA IV races lol.
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don't be an ass then and i won't take it seriously
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I'm not trying to be an ass? I'm off to bed.
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lol has any of you seen my suggestion (last post in 1st page) or you 2 are too busy in your couple fight? xd
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But you're leading the highscore list atm so you must care a bit :L
yeh i really care when i'm willing to sacrifice all my tt records into a mode where anyone will destroy them lol
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But you're leading the highscore list atm so you must care a bit :L
yeh i really care when i'm willing to sacrifice all my tt records into a mode where anyone will destroy them lol
THAT`S THE SPIRIT!!! :)
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:D
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back in the day all we had was 600+ one world races, and i remember nobody complaining back then about lag.
and 100+ fps doesn't make winning any easier than someone having 40fps
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i really like tt races cos you can race against people without getting rammed or having to worry about getting rammed. tt mode is pretty boring cos you're just racing against the records.
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aw i wish it was somehow changed then lol, i find it boring racing alone :(
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i really like tt races cos you can race against people without getting rammed or having to worry about getting rammed. tt mode is pretty boring cos you're just racing against the records.
I agree with mooman.
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well tbh it's clear i'm not happy about some things that's why i keep complaining lol
IV mode sucks, /TT mode sucks, TT races are boring but tbh i'd rather /tt disappear more than anything else, mainly because i despise mode ragers and /tt abusers
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Why not make a poll where everyone can argue and give their view on GTA IV races and /tt. (2polls)
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I already made a topic concerning GTA IV (and SHC, which I don't mind anymore) most people wanted to keep it.
Anyway, sorry snoopy, my comment about your recs did seem kinda unneeded :L
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all normal TT move to /tt
and keep all TT with Nitro or Swap or any other features (laps, hardcore, superhardcore etc) in main racemode
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all normal TT move to /tt
and keep all TT with Nitro or Swap or any other features (laps, hardcore, superhardcore etc) in main racemode
hahahah, ok. if thats gonna happen you won't see me ever again on this server.
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Well ... I wouldn't do the same as ush but it'd piss me off to say the least. I just don't see the big problem with the mode.
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its just another kind of racism.
max thinks he can delete all the modes he doesn't like, well.. no way, TT is one of the most populair modes we have, I really really enjoy driving against someone just for the time. I always look at the time between and enjoy if I did a good turn etc.. what is wrong with liking that? What is wrong about the mode? Just accept there are people who like these kind of modes and dislike others.. you should be happy not everyone is like you, cause you wouldn't see how great your taste is because there is nothing to compare with. And as you know, it's not because I'm a record whore.
if you want to delete something, delete /tt races.. they're boring, have you ever see me enjoying that for more than 5minutes?
imo these are the basics of AdrenalineX racing:
- SK races
- TT races
- one world races
- normal races(with 3 or 4 other people)
- drift mode
These modes are all great, none should be removed. about other modes, like GTA IV and freeze and trailer modes are a bit boring.
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and not to misunderstand:
the races I like most are the ones where I compete in a one on one battle with someone else.
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yeh i guess the majority of people like having tt races in the normal mode, ah well lol :)
i still think /tt or gta iv mode should be removed or changed in some way :D
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simple solution:
keep them, just THERE ARE LOADS of TT where can be normal grid lol
edit if possible to normal, to give example, i started with mine races, hope there will be someone who follow my way
and to explain
/tt
Adventages:
+You can try when You want.
+You can try as many times as You want.
+Anyone won't mess to You.
+You can try any track you want(don't need to wait when shows in voting).
Disadvantages:
-Don't know any, tell if You see at least 1.
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simple solution:
keep them, just THERE ARE LOADS of TT where can be normal grid lol
edit if possible to normal, to give example, i started with mine races, hope there will be someone who follow my way
I agree, some races are perfect for one world races.
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simple solution:
keep them, just THERE ARE LOADS of TT where can be normal grid lol
edit if possible to normal, to give example, i started with mine races, hope there will be someone who follow my way
better solution:
leave them alone
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/tt
Adventages:
+You can try when You want.
+You can try as many times as You want.
+Anyone won't mess to You.
+You can try any track you want(don't need to wait when shows in voting).
Disadvantages:
-Don't know any, tell if You see at least 1.
hm i've said this 1 million times lol :(
mode raging, highly annoying. /tt is the worst of course
learning almost the biggest majority of the races and then loading them into the normal mode to get the extremely difficult record to beat, which means if somebody else wants it, they have to spend hours & hours in tt
and it makes racing apart just not fun, how can you really have fun racing with ''pro's when they mode rage? irritates me lol
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thats why /tt can't have races that are in racemode
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bit late for that :(
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I see both sides to this, and tbh I'm more on the side to remove it. But since people will miss it, the best idea is Pyro's: Make TT races load rarely.
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simple solution:
keep them, just THERE ARE LOADS of TT where can be normal grid lol
edit if possible to normal, to give example, i started with mine races, hope there will be someone who follow my way
better solution:
leave them alone
And also, +10000000000. It's the best we're gonna do. Tbh, I'd hate to see /tt go, and I don't know what you have against /tt ragers. Mess up a race, then you've gotta wait until it's finished which can be incredibily boring. Or, just go to /tt and start a fresh. The problem with having such a popular server is that you just can't please anyone, but the current system is the closest we're gonna get.
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the best idea is Pyro's: Make TT races load rarely.
good one, point for FF
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LOL?!
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or not change anything at all.
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keep it the way it is like pod says. if you really need to, just remove /tt or leave switch only races there. the game modes fine, a bit of variety keeps everyone happy
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/tt used to be a short sidestep next to the real racing, where you could spend some time after you got bored of the current race, or after you crashed or whatever.. it became too massive and too important nowadays.
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we can just remove /tt then or just keep switch races there, but don't alter the gamemode :( I like an iv race or a one world race popping up every now and then, it'll be crap if some race modes are less likely to appear in the vote list
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Best thing to do, make custom /TT races that are only for /TT MODE ( I know Max made some ) and delete all the others...
OR delete all races that are in /tt list from main race and keep the /TT races as it is now...
or just leave it as it is now..
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I'd hate it if modes like /tt and /stunt take over too much. :(
imo the true racing mode is well the normal racing mode, and /tt takes over it more than anything else, i never liked it when it got introduced cos i knew what'd eventually happen
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I don't know what you have against /tt ragers. Mess up a race, then you've gotta wait until it's finished which can be incredibily boring.
/nc /race /sos..
pointless commands otherwise if people rarely use them
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enough, leave like it is, coz we can't get rid of them, it is our falut, but....
loooong time ago there wasn't TimeTrial (racemode)
when it came out, it was like quite new, nice feature (race alone for 1-2 races)
but these times it was rare, mostly was one world/normal racing
now almost half of all races are in TimeTrial mode :-X
soon (if more TimeTrials got accepted to main racemode) we will have:
SA:(S-M)P San Andreas:(Sometimes-Multi)Player or SA:(M-S)P San Andreas:(Mostly-Single)Player
blah... fuck it, i see there are more ppl who wanna be alone, they don't need multiplayer then...
all i can do to fight with this, and don't make angry anyone else, is not adding TimeTrial races to racemode anymore, and delete few my own TimeTrials, i have made...(now iregret that i made them)
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let me go back in time
to the time where you could send a nude picture of yourself to become admin :)
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lol
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we're fighting a losing battle max, just forget it lol
i'm interested to know how many tt races i've made ;)
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ok, lets go this way
keep /tt, use:
-switch races
-gta sa single player races
-special made for /tt (that aren't in racemode)
for exapmle
hard, Hydra races better keep in /tt not racemode (hynix, hynix2 etc)
8-Track, Dirt Track, etc - should be in /tt too (as long with other singleplayer races)
loooong 200 cps race also better not put in racemode (coz if we load in racemode, ppl gets bored and leave)
tricky parkour races (PIRATES, it is hard to keep in racemode)
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I hate PIRATES so bad
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just remove /tt
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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ok, lets go this way
keep /tt, use:
-switch races
-gta sa single player races
-special made for /tt (that aren't in racemode)
for exapmle
hard, Hydra races better keep in /tt not racemode (hynix, hynix2 etc)
8-Track, Dirt Track, etc - should be in /tt too (as long with other singleplayer races)
loooong 200 cps race also better not put in racemode (coz if we load in racemode, ppl gets bored and leave)
tricky parkour races (PIRATES, it is hard to keep in racemode)
Good idea. And tbh @ what karlip said, I doubt /stunt's ever gonna take over.
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ok, lets go this way
keep /tt, use:
-switch races
-gta sa single player races
-special made for /tt (that aren't in racemode)
for exapmle
hard, Hydra races better keep in /tt not racemode (hynix, hynix2 etc)
8-Track, Dirt Track, etc - should be in /tt too (as long with other singleplayer races)
loooong 200 cps race also better not put in racemode (coz if we load in racemode, ppl gets bored and leave)
tricky parkour races (PIRATES, it is hard to keep in racemode)
do it?
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ok
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quit on the TT races? dont think so, one world races are worst and when these are loaded people quit
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one world races was what made sa-mp racing great
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yee, post IP of that Adrenaline server you run last time
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one world races was what made sa-mp racing great
Now it's awful with that start lag though :(
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HostName: Adrenaline
Address: 78.129.221.58:7801
Players: 0 / 10
Ping: 20
Mode: Adrenaline (Racing)
Map: San Andreas
something to get me started, i want to learn pawn
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i'm interested to know how many tt races i've made ;)
Races: 2401
TT: 546 (22.741%)
Nitro: 220 (9.163%)
OneWorld: 194 (8.080%)
SK: 106 (4.415%)
GTAIV: 58 (2.416%)
Duel: 40 (1.666%)
Parkour: 6 (0.250%)
TT races:
1. Snoopy: 43
2. mooman: 38
3. [FSR]Devil666: 37
4. [UK]Snoopy: 28
5. [LSD]Snoopy: 26
6. MadMax: 23
7. [FSR]Ush: 20
8. [2F2F]SNiKeRiS: 17
9. [CtP]Vertigo: 14
10. Cysio: 12
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nice pod :D
lol and who said we only had a few tt races
TT: 546 (22.741%) :|
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It's much less than the half that max said
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hm true, tbh i only thought there was 100 or so too
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i'm interested to know how many tt races i've made ;)
6. MadMax: 23
lol 23?
they in racemode or /tt mode?
coz don't remember making them for racemode
hm true, tbh i only thought there was 100 or so too
almost 100
i'm interested to know how many tt races i've made ;)
TT races:
1. Snoopy: 43
2. mooman: 38
3. [FSR]Devil666: 37
4. [UK]Snoopy: 28
5. [LSD]Snoopy: 26
6. MadMax: 23
7. [FSR]Ush: 20
8. [2F2F]SNiKeRiS: 17
9. [CtP]Vertigo: 14
10. Cysio: 12
also count some by Andy
all Classic-Racing series by oOoAndyoOo
and all with other, fake accounts
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:-[
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More stats with remapped names:
Races: 2401
TT: 546 (22.741%)
Nitro: 220 (9.163%)
OneWorld: 194 (8.080%)
SK: 106 (4.415%)
GTAIV: 58 (2.416%)
Duel: 40 (1.666%)
Parkour: 6 (0.250%)
TT races:
1. Snoopy: 108
2. mooman: 45
3. [FSR]Phobos: 37
4. MadMax: 29
5. [FSR]Ush: 20
6. [2F2F]SNiKeRiS: 17
7. Cysio: 14
8. [CtP]Vertigo: 14
9. [SC]Phil_Ivey: 10
10. [FSR]Lewis: 9
GTAIV races:
1. MadMax: 16
2. skunk: 6
3. [LSR]Starlancer: 4
4. [2F2F]Dominic: 3
5. ironman: 2
6. [UK]Rac3r: 2
7. Zecko: 2
8. J1M_[LT]: 2
9. [SFX]RedDragon: 2
10. Killerbunnies: 2
Nitro races:
1. mooman: 19
2. MadMax: 13
3. Snoopy: 11
4. [FSR]Phobos: 10
5. [FSR]M4lysz: 8
6. Thrasher: 8
7. [FSR]Michal: 6
8. Grandmaster: 6
9. ironman: 5
10. [SC]Isildur1: 4
OneWorld races:
1. Snoopy: 59
2. MadMax: 18
3. [LSR]Starlancer: 11
4. skunk: 9
5. [LSD]F4lc0N: 8
6. mooman: 6
7. [FSR]Phobos: 5
8. simon_uk: 5
9. ironman: 3
10. [FSR]M4lysz: 3
SK races:
1. Snoopy: 38
2. [CtP]Vertigo: 8
3. [LSR]Starlancer: 8
4. MadMax: 7
5. [2F2F]SNiKeRiS: 7
6. [UK]Rac3r: 4
7. [AK47]skunk: 3
8. [LSD]F4lc0N: 3
9. [XR]Play: 3
10. Catastroph: 2
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pod do you have the stats from normalworld and driftworld too?
TT races:
4. MadMax: 29
5. [FSR]Ush: 20
Max I'm so dissapointed in you, you're more a TT whore than I ;D
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Can these stats that pod is pulling up be added to a new 'stats' tab on the website?
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hm moo i can't find the other topic where i first asked about the highscore page being seperated with /tt records
i don't think it's such a good idea now having all records combined and i wish i never asked lol, because it creates more tt ragers since they know they can get easy records and make themselves higher on the hs page
can you remove them again please? that's one less problem then
what i orginally wanted was a seperate highscore page for /tt records but that's a lot of effort and the current idea isn't very beneficial
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25% tt near enough, that's a lot of 'on your own' racing. For the people who have been here awhile, that's normal. But, if new players join to find themselves racing on their own, like billy, it would be a bit of a turn off.
TT races only in /tt sounds good, also would keep the TT records safe (main race tt records would be harder to get that /tt races, that you can easily start again with /tt).
So yeah, I'm all for the idea. Maybe replacing some tt races with duel/normal might spice it up, but that's quiet a lot of work with resetting a new grid location for the other players.
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blegh, i dont want my tt races in /tt but in normal racing world.
there are also people who like to race on their own sometimes.. I really find this a problem which isn't a problem but because max says so its a problem now, I never heard anyone else then max complaining about too many TT races..
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blegh, i dont want my tt races in /tt but in normal racing world.
then change your tt races to normal world :D
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The problem which never was a problem...
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it would've became one eventually
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And why not edit the TT races that could easily fit for a duel or normal world (or sometimes even one world) because racing alone on the LV ringroad is quite boring (idk if there's a TT race like that, but it's just an example, there ARE some TT races that could easily fit for normal world without being too rammy)
25% is quite a lot too, imo 10-15% is more than enough.
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hmm I'm not really convinced yet.. TT races were hot when they came, not all races had rammers and you could go for yourself. I think that if there is a problem, it is there is being too many of them. So if it's possible we could make one world of them. But Í'd like to hear peoples opinion on this.. I'm not really convinced of the problem as noted before.
And as Ouzo says, could we have a little table with all modes + percentage of the mode in our server. If you have 4 modes, 25% percent isn't too much. If you have 8 modes it might be, but it also differs per mode, you don't want 8 modes and then 12,5% of them being ehh.. GTA IV or something.
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Some modes are just here to add some original races.
imo, and i'm sure many others will agree, the major mode is, and has to stay normal mode. Having over 50% of normal races isn't a problem.
And the modes that add some original races to the server should stay <5% overall (not each), IV+SHC+parkour+stunt, I may forget some.
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So as I read your post you say we should have a certain percentage of tt races in the main racing world? That's okay for me, but removing them to some other mode (/tt) is not a good idea. Why did Ax become big? Because of having different modes..
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ax was big even without lots of modes lol
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I dislike this idea :( I also like racing alone sometimes and if you race in /tt, times are your only rivals.. Not like in normal race mode, where you can compete against other players as well.
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Not like in normal race mode, where you can compete against other players as well.
that's what sa-mp racing should be about :(
competing against other sa-mp players and not times =/
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anything I say is useless in max and andys eyes.. what is it worth posting anymore?
they got an idea and they gonna force it.. nobody wanna compete with them about this.
I'm the first to give up, won't bother anymore about this. I've made my point you can think about that.
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anything I say is useless in max and andys eyes.. what is it worth posting anymore?
they got an idea and they gonna force it.. nobody wanna compete with them about this.
lol i am just saying my opinion, is that NOT allowed?
lol everyone is competing and saying their opinions too.
lol.
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why do I need to repeat mine every 2 posts then
oh wait, its because you keep saying your idea is better.. thats what you do imo.
keep bringing up the "but it should be multiplayer" argument, i can't bring in anything to that.
aka.. what should I say that you understand me lol. or what you need to say that I understand you.
its a split meaning here... discussion is useless cause nobody gonna give up their opinion.
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lol. not saying my idea is better, just saying what i think.
lol, smoke a joint and chill out.
lol.
but I like multiplayer... but waiting alone isn't multiplayer at all.
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but what I'm concerned about is, how are we going to get a solution that both of us can agree with?
And yes, I use your argument against you there. It's just showing what a shit argument I think it is. I don't even agree with it.
im offfff for now, need to chill.
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lol. easy, leave it to r.
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hahaha so who buys R a new computer first can decide what its gonna be ;D
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he can decide. it's his script, like it or not he calls the shots. he knows what's best for ax!
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but what you say of my compromise?
making less races TT by changing them to normal world. but leave a certain percentage of them TT so we both can be a little more happy
(http://www.photos-of-the-year.com/image/challenge/570/2388I_got_my_two_front_teeth.jpg)
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fine with me, 25% is far too much imo. i've made a lot of tt races myself but i try to make them fun and different, the same as mooman does. but most tt races are the same cars with the same route..
infact even though most races are like that, it doesn't get boring in normal or oneworld cos you have better competition.