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Terrorfist:
He'll probably want an AWD once he gets more older.

MadMax:

--- Quote from: Krissi on May 05, 2016, 12:01:09 pm ---
--- Quote from: MadMax on May 04, 2016, 07:21:54 pm ---Here few points I require:

2 - FWD or AWD, not intrested in RWD
3 - Power around 150-170, no more than 200 horses
4 - Engine no more than 2.0L



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These 3 things, why not?

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2. Not expirienced enough to care at RWD , also I need often to hillclimb in winter or rain. I'm bit affraid of fishtailing yet.
3. Alfa had 90 horses, now wanna update to something from 150-170, don't wanna already powerful beast with over 200 horsepower. I'm not expirienced enough to handle that power, and knowing myself, it would be too tempting, so for my own safety, don't wanna more.
4. Expencive taxes for anything over 2.0 L in Poland

[MAF]Cthulhu:
Alfa 159 definitely.

[LSR]Jalicno:
Difference between 170 and 200HP is too small to be recognized on stock cars cause by default non turbo engine must be heavy (Over 2000cm3) and weight over than 1500kg. Be sure AWD or 4x4 system weight also over 150kg - some even more. So doubt you will be happy with that.
Yours 90HP Alfa came without Air Condiotion,ABS and other usual stuffs what you see in cars now days but weight was 1100 Kg so that car was kinda fast and powerful. Now you have plenty of cars what on paper make 150HP from 1.2 - 1.4 engine but after just 5 years they are closer to junk yard than be driven every day in city...

Those cars what you counted, they don't belongs same class definetly so its really hard compare them. But lets try some.


Dodge Avanger - are you really sure you need that in Europe? Think about parts and proper service if plan drive car on long term.

Ford Cougar - very rare in good condition if is 2000cm/130HP known as oil eater... Engine 2.5 Duratec good but not fit yours criteria also expensive as day car... Keep on mind its 15 years old already.

Opel Astra H - Twin Top could be interesting for young man as you are but service cost lot, consumption is over than 12L petrol trust me (Got Astra Bertone similar engine) so in short period that car come unprofitable.

Corolla and Celica are good cars built by Toyota but Petrol turbo engine service costs more than double price of diesel and lot complain that diesel service is expensive... Check price of usual stuffs what you changed on your car compared with Celica's

And well isn't time to compalin about Alfa cause you are huge fan but lets just give you small advice, if car is out of warranty you have to check many things before you buy any. When car is 10 years old and often passed 300,000 some even more you see plenty of bad things and just few good on every car so don't pay just logo on metal before that be sure that car suit you and won't make you poor and hell no in grave...

After almost 20 different cars in last 14 years, last 6 months proudly driving Astra G Hatchback 5 doors 1.6 8v(euro 4). And you know why, small service cost me less than 40 euro every 7000km and consumption is 7.5L/100km pretty impressive heh...

But if you still want some smoth sportish 2000cm3 150HP car, take look on Mazda 6 2nd generation of course Petrol engine.

MadMax:
thx for advices.

About Astra TwinTop, it was suggested by friend. He had one, but updated to something more powerful (He got Audi S4 now) and this car (Astra), in 1.6 or 1.8 engine version indeed had fuel consumption around 8 L. I was expecting 12-14 but tourns out it is actually lower. Also checked fuel usage ratings, and almost all are around 8L average.
People also suggest me Astra, coz it got very simple mechanics. As long as nothing fucksup with opening roof, all other is fairy simple and average cheap in service.
Car got rather positive ratings and reviews, in addition share lot of parts with normal Astra, which is kinda usual car there.
Only real downside of it, is 45 L fuel tank.
I'm checking forums and other personal reviews for this car, coz it is really intresting idea.

Cougar is only loose suggestion, but after taking closer looks I m not really so enthusiastic on it.

Alfa 159 is one of cars I always wanted to have. Only big downside is, most realible version is 1.9 diesel. I'm not so fond of diesel engines.
Alfa Romeo owners usually know what they want and can take good care. So afterall bad things, there is moslty like chance Alfa can be in best possible condition. In addition many people are 'affraid' of Alfa Romeo, so finding suitable one is very easy. Many people who want to sell it, have problem to find customers.

Dodge Avanger seems odd and bad choice, but actually isn't that far as You may expect. Parts are available, service is also not so hard. Afterall it is not a Charger, yet still feels american (cheap-made) dream. Right now it is in my 5th line of choice. Also one of best ways to try American automotive, without spending crazy money, unless got another suggestion?

Corolla and Celica - the problem is with engines. Small petrol ones are not powerful. Turbo models have expencive service. They are fine, but still placed after Dodge Avanger.

Mazda 6, nice suggestion, added to list. 1 big problem with Mazda in Poland is, they are quite 'exclusive' and not many services can do them. Parts are ironically more expencive than You could suppose. Also car is quite big (not as big as Dodge, but still odly big for non-american car) Know something similar but bit shorter? 4.5 M or less?

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