Author Topic: I need your opinions on this... (Read 19199 times)

[MAF]Snoopy · « **on:** March 21, 2009, 09:39:57 pm »

I think this flip abusing is totally unacceptable, tell me what you guys think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPEe6jBafBs&fmt=18

[MAF]MrHess · « **Reply #1 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:46:12 pm »

that's unacceptable

[2F2F]SNiKeRiS · « **Reply #2 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:49:16 pm »

Someone from FSR ?

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #3 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:49:37 pm »

yep but i wont say his name

MadMax · « **Reply #4 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:51:58 pm »

if soeone CAN'T controll his car in air , he must be poor....and abuser xD

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #5 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:53:01 pm »

that's exactly the way i see it max

[MAF]Aj_Lajk_Bir · « **Reply #6 on:** March 21, 2009, 10:19:17 pm »

its not hard to see who is he
but he use /flip to much time,i use /f only when i burning

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #7 on:** March 21, 2009, 10:21:24 pm »

same, we need a solution for this any ideas?

maybe go back to the old /flip so it stops your momentum

it's not only him who uses it, grandmaster is the biggest abuser iv'e seen using it, there's more but i won't say their names

[MAF]Aj_Lajk_Bir · « **Reply #8 on:** March 21, 2009, 10:35:13 pm »

maybe limit? i think 5 is good idea
5 time used /f and bb picka xD

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 21, 2009, 10:36:32 pm »

but that wont be stopping the abusing, cos u seen, he used it 3 times aleady in that race

[MAF]mooman · « **Reply #10 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:07:45 pm »

Quote from: [LSD]Snoopy on March 21, 2009, 10:21:24 pm

maybe go back to the old /flip so it stops your momentum

then people just use abuse that too so they dont fall into the sea/off hills etc. we can never win

MikeGT · « **Reply #11 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:09:31 pm »

Hm... I use keybines :O i think a lot of ppl do, he should made a thing since we can't stop it... we can share it, btw That one is GoshtRider... but i use keybines 2, didn't know it wasn't allowed :O

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:11:08 pm »

Quote from: [LSD]mooman on March 21, 2009, 11:07:45 pm

Quote from: [LSD]Snoopy on March 21, 2009, 10:21:24 pm
maybe go back to the old /flip so it stops your momentum
then people just use abuse that too so they dont fall into the sea/off hills etc. we can never win

warn the cunts, and if they keep using it then ban?

[MAF]Aj_Lajk_Bir · « **Reply #13 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:24:44 pm »

ban for using /f ? little sick $:-\$

[MAF]falky · « **Reply #14 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:25:28 pm »

I have an idea....

Get rid of /f OR /flip

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #15 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:25:48 pm »

if they abuse it and have been warned over and over again then yeah...

and yeah id rather not have /flip /nc and other stuff

[MAF]falky · « **Reply #16 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:29:08 pm »

oldskool is cool

[MAF]MrHess · « **Reply #17 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:31:39 pm »

its clear they are abusing it, I remember long ago /flip not only flipped the car but it also stopped the car, so if people use flip to balance in the air the car will stop in the air, resulting in a fail. Flip needs to stop the car so its only worth using it in the ground and with a good reason

[MAF]falky · « **Reply #18 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:32:54 pm »

Just get rid of it

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:34:28 pm »

this isnt the sk server ezra

[FSR]GhostRid3r · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:38:42 pm »

yup its me...

i didnt notice that it was allowed to use /f in air... :S sry the people

it was abusing

i think cysio's idea of limit to use /f 5 times for race is cool... but it should be ony 3 times like /nc

one more time people... sry i wont do that anymore

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:45:39 pm »

k

but lot's of other people still abuse it, so it's not only you dw

[FSR]Ush · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2009, 11:55:37 pm »

hm... I think /flip should stay...

But I don't have any solution for the "abusing"..

Why did we introduce /flip? Because it stopped the "annoying" people who crashed, started fight and other shit.. driving wrong direction etc.. spam..

But a solution, nah, dont have it.. Do we need a solution? Or are this just smart people... Many records have been set this way.. And especially at the long jumps it is easy to use for everyone, even a cow can type a fast /f when flying in the air that long...

Thrasher · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2009, 12:02:27 am »

Quote from: [LSD]Snoopy on March 21, 2009, 10:21:24 pm

maybe go back to the old /flip so it stops your momentum

Some people said this could be abused as well because you could hit /flip to prevent flying off a cliff...

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2009, 12:06:20 am »

thanks for your opinions guys

[FSR]Ush · « **Reply #25 on:** March 22, 2009, 12:16:37 am »

Quote from: Thrasher on March 22, 2009, 12:02:27 am

Quote from: [LSD]Snoopy on March 21, 2009, 10:21:24 pm
maybe go back to the old /flip so it stops your momentum
Some people said this could be abused as well because you could hit /flip to prevent flying off a cliff...

true... with the new /flip that wasn't able anymore... but a new kind of "abuse" developed...

Hmm...

as we all know.. /flip improves record-times

my idea for a solution... give someone +0.1 sec (or more.. its just my example) when he uses /flip 1 time..

So, if someone lands without using /flip he wins time at the ones who need /flip..

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #26 on:** March 22, 2009, 12:16:51 am »

i agree with the post above mine

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #27 on:** March 22, 2009, 01:10:49 am »

well the old /flip wasnt as bad, cos it stops your momentum and in that respect you lose so much time to set records and as we all know, you need every mini second to beat ax records... where as the current /flip makes it easy to abuse + set records

[FSR]Ush · « **Reply #28 on:** March 22, 2009, 01:12:14 am »

Quote from: [LSD]Snoopy on March 22, 2009, 12:16:51 am

i agree with the post above mine

same

let's make a poll.. Or not?

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #29 on:** March 22, 2009, 01:12:38 am »

go on den

[FSR]GhostRid3r · « **Reply #30 on:** March 22, 2009, 01:20:50 am »

yup snoop

so it should be only 3 /f usage by race and the car should be stopped momentum when u do /f then there isnt so many times to abuse the /flip comand

if that doesnt work, the best option will be: warm the one who's abusing 3 times, and if he just continue abusing a ban will for sure solve the problem....

or another idea: spaming the /f many times by race should result in a kick just like fighting: like u get warned once at second time u get kicked...

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #31 on:** March 22, 2009, 01:33:01 am »

we need to wait for Rac3r on this matter

il'l remove the video once he's seen it, so he got a clear understanding of what we are talking about

Thrasher · « **Reply #32 on:** March 22, 2009, 01:35:06 am »

Quote from: [LSD]Snoopy on March 22, 2009, 01:10:49 am

well the old /flip wasnt as bad, cos it stops your momentum and in that respect you lose so much time to set records and as we all know, you need every mini second to beat ax records... where as the current /flip makes it easy to abuse + set records

Excellent point sir. In that case I'm in favour of having the original /flip restored, as it cannot interfere with record times.

[MAF]Vertigo · « **Reply #33 on:** March 22, 2009, 01:41:20 am »

Go back to the old flip, where your car pretty much stops. This way they'd only use it if they were already going slow.
Although this can also be abused

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #34 on:** March 22, 2009, 01:44:16 am »

well nobody likes to do 4 minutes on a chilliad race just to fall off the edge near the end, then do /rescueme and realise you have to start from the grid again

[MAF]MrHess · « **Reply #35 on:** March 22, 2009, 02:43:57 am »

old flip seems to be the best solution

[MAF]falky · « **Reply #36 on:** March 22, 2009, 05:41:14 am »

K I guess this ain't SK server

I have another suggestion, how about a /flip ban?

but if I were to choose, I'd choose to remove all aids

[MAF]MrHess · « **Reply #37 on:** March 22, 2009, 06:29:44 am »

wtf flip ban?

[MAF]Rac3r · « **Reply #38 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:17:11 am »

Costs $50 now, gonna be an expensive race lol

[2F2F]SNiKeRiS · « **Reply #39 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:18:59 am »

Quote from: *-*-[Mike]2F2F[GT]-*-* on March 21, 2009, 11:09:31 pm

Hm... I use keybines :O i think a lot of ppl do, he should made a thing since we can't stop it... we can share it, btw That one is GoshtRider... but i use keybines 2, didn't know it wasn't allowed :O

I admit that im using keybinds too... But not abusing it. I don't know just give server ban for keybinds, no need to make /flip limited. If u laming in race and car just won't listen to you, you trying to panic and fliping.

Anyway keybinds make ppl addicted.

MadMax · « **Reply #40 on:** March 22, 2009, 10:11:28 am »

/f = 1000 $

maybe this will help

[2F2F]Steven8 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 22, 2009, 10:18:27 am »

Quote from: MadMax on March 22, 2009, 10:11:28 am

/f = 1000 $

maybe this will help

that's sick, people will keep on using it anyway. Or make something which disables flip when car is in air xD

[MAF]Aj_Lajk_Bir · « **Reply #42 on:** March 22, 2009, 11:11:48 am »

max maybe for flip 100 000$?

omfg 1 000 is fucking too much, someone asshole crash your car and you must pay for it that much?

[MAF]falky · « **Reply #43 on:** March 22, 2009, 11:29:22 am »

Quote from: [Cysio] on March 22, 2009, 11:11:48 am

max maybe for flip 100 000$?

omfg 1 000 is fucking too much, someone asshole crash your car and you must pay for it that much?

Yes.

[FSR]Ush · « **Reply #44 on:** March 22, 2009, 11:34:52 am »

Quote from: Di5tuRb3D on March 22, 2009, 06:29:44 am

wtf flip ban?

yes you choose normal flip or flip ban, the 1st flips your car and the 2nd bans you xD

MadMax · « **Reply #45 on:** March 22, 2009, 12:27:00 pm »

so make /f 1000$
and /r for 50$ (/r = /repair) is fats to type and it will fix your car without flip your car

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #46 on:** March 22, 2009, 12:55:01 pm »

Quote from: Rac3r on March 22, 2009, 07:17:11 am

Costs $50 now, gonna be an expensive race lol

sorry r, that's not good enough for me

ppl will still abuse it

[MAF]MrHess · « **Reply #47 on:** March 22, 2009, 04:51:40 pm »

* Di5tuRb3D votes for old flip

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #48 on:** March 22, 2009, 05:06:49 pm »

Thrasher · « **Reply #49 on:** March 22, 2009, 05:28:01 pm »

Quote from: [LSD]F4lc0N on March 22, 2009, 05:41:14 am

but if I were to choose, I'd choose to remove all aids

What would this accomplish?

[2F2F]Steven8 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 22, 2009, 05:40:19 pm »

Quote from: Di5tuRb3D on March 22, 2009, 04:51:40 pm

* Di5tuRb3D votes for old flip

then ppl will use it to stop car

[MAF]PyroFox · « **Reply #51 on:** March 22, 2009, 05:54:57 pm »

Quote from: Steven8 on March 22, 2009, 05:40:19 pm

Quote from: Di5tuRb3D on March 22, 2009, 04:51:40 pm
* Di5tuRb3D votes for old flip
then ppl will use it to stop car

That's much better than the current usage of /flip. It's gonna stop your car so your still gonna lose a few seconds while the current /flip gains you a few seconds.

Thrasher · « **Reply #52 on:** March 22, 2009, 05:57:55 pm »

Quote from: Steven8

then ppl will use it to stop car

Just use "enter" then "tab"

Quote from: LSD_FireFox

It's gonna stop your car so your still gonna lose a few seconds while the current /flip gains you a few seconds.

I think everyone is completely missing the point Firefox, but for those who are paying attention, here it is.

[MAF]Cthulhu · « **Reply #53 on:** March 22, 2009, 06:25:55 pm »

Quote from: Di5tuRb3D on March 22, 2009, 04:51:40 pm

* Di5tuRb3D votes for old flip

^^

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #54 on:** March 22, 2009, 06:46:48 pm »

old flip would be much better, it cant be abused as much as the /flip we have now, i mean no offence to rac3r but $50 for flip? nobody will take any notice of losing $50

[2F2F]Steven8 · « **Reply #55 on:** March 22, 2009, 06:55:31 pm »

Paying for /flip and /vr is bad idea :/ Tune and paint, ok can stay but /vr and /flip ?

[MAF]Aj_Lajk_Bir · « **Reply #56 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:01:05 pm »

steven has right
/vr and /f shouldn't be for $$$

[MAF]MrHess · « **Reply #57 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:11:41 pm »

Quote from: [LSD]FireFox on March 22, 2009, 05:54:57 pm

Quote from: Steven8 on March 22, 2009, 05:40:19 pm
Quote from: Di5tuRb3D on March 22, 2009, 04:51:40 pm
* Di5tuRb3D votes for old flip
then ppl will use it to stop car
That's much better than the current usage of /flip. It's gonna stop your car so your still gonna lose a few seconds while the current /flip gains you a few seconds.

Thats the point, you can't get any records while flipping the car every 2 seconds

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #58 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:18:36 pm »

Quote from: Steven8 on March 22, 2009, 06:55:31 pm

Paying for /flip and /vr is bad idea :/ Tune and paint, ok can stay but /vr and /flip ?

go into a car garage and ask if they can fix your car for free?

well it's either paying or go back to the old flip

[2F2F]Steven8 · « **Reply #59 on:** March 22, 2009, 07:19:52 pm »

Or flip will be 4 'big' money, but /vr, come on guys, it can be for 50$ xD

BuRnOUT · « **Reply #60 on:** March 22, 2009, 08:06:17 pm »

I SAY:

NO ---> 2 pay 4 the flip
YES---> is unfair, the old flip is perfect, because if we use the old flpi we will loose time

[2F2F]Steven8 · « **Reply #61 on:** March 22, 2009, 08:14:29 pm »

Quote from: [FSR]BuRnOUT on March 22, 2009, 08:06:17 pm

I SAY:

NO ---> 2 pay 4 the flip
YES---> is unfair, the old flip is perfect, because if we use the old flpi we will loose time

and for vr xd

[MAF]MrHess · « **Reply #62 on:** March 22, 2009, 09:22:56 pm »

flip is the command in question, vr is good the way it is

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #63 on:** March 22, 2009, 09:27:39 pm »

exactly

[FSR]Ush · « **Reply #64 on:** March 22, 2009, 10:38:43 pm »

And what about all the newbies.. people who wanna be like us? People who don't win every race.. and at the same time don't make as much money as we do.. They can't afford a /flip or /vr... And they will explode... And we will win....

it really looks like segregation between the "rich"and the "poor" drivers..

[MAF]falky · « **Reply #65 on:** March 23, 2009, 12:44:23 am »

Quote from: [FSR]Ush on March 22, 2009, 10:38:43 pm

And what about all the newbies.. people who wanna be like us? People who don't win every race.. and at the same time don't make as much money as we do.. They can't afford a /flip or /vr... And they will explode... And we will win....

it really looks like segregation between the "rich"and the "poor" drivers..

I have a suggestion for the noobs, remove the aids for them. That's how I learned to become a pro.

[FSR]Ush · « **Reply #66 on:** March 23, 2009, 10:14:19 am »

remove aids out of africa and you are my hero

[MAF]falky · « **Reply #67 on:** March 23, 2009, 11:58:37 am »

Quote from: [FSR]Ush on March 23, 2009, 10:14:19 am

remove aids out of africa and you are my hero

[MAF]Aj_Lajk_Bir · « **Reply #68 on:** March 23, 2009, 12:56:17 pm »

aids isn't only in africa $:-\$

MadMax · « **Reply #69 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:15:55 pm »

yea Andy you have right ppl abuse it at every jump,
for example:

player: [HUN]Lenew
race: Monza
after bump in air he use /flip or /f or 2--->quic fix menu--->flip

HE CAN"T CONTROL CAR IN AIR ?

So... Yea, i wanna car stop after /flip

[MAF]Snoopy · « **Reply #70 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:19:36 pm »

Quote from: [FSR]Ush on March 23, 2009, 10:14:19 am

remove aids out of africa and you are my hero

Quote from: [Cysio] on March 23, 2009, 12:56:17 pm

aids isn't only in africa $:-\$

stay on topic please guys.

peddy · « **Reply #71 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:38:05 pm »

if flip is going to be abused then u should change the command to /flip and not the short /f flip xD

[MAF]Aj_Lajk_Bir · « **Reply #72 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:22:48 pm »

now after /f car stoping and it is good

[2F2F]SNiKeRiS · « **Reply #73 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:32:34 pm »

I have one complaint about new flip. When dude drives in small street or just starting to rolling, he use flip, he stops and then i hit him... Just think about what would happen in air. $:-\$ Just want to say that it's kinda unusual and not only me don't like it.

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