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keep this new one, the idea is good

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Offline musicloveR

Disscusion about new /F
« on: July 16, 2012, 08:14:27 am »
ok so as someone of you may already know, we have new version of /F
your vehicle must be non-moving to flip your vehicle, which doesnt sound that bad in theory, but when you start to race you'll see how bad madmax's idea is. i see it like hardcore mode but you can repair your vehicle..
so i opened this topic to disscus about this bad thing which has come to ax to ruin our lives.
i added a pool too so you can vote for /F you would like to see on the server running
(NOTE:go to the server before voting and try new /F, drive couple of races so you can see how much it sucks)

peace.

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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2012, 08:32:23 am »
Bring the old flip back. Please.

Offline pajk

Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2012, 08:55:32 am »
new /f sucks, sorry

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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 09:13:52 am »
actually speed doesn't have to be 0, just below a certain amount. maybe we can test with higher limits before getting rid of the idea totally because people are using it as a brake and that is not what it was made for
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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2012, 09:38:17 am »
kinda agree with you, but why would we change it after years of using it? i've seen flip command on some other servers and car doesnt even stop when you use flip command lol, no speed loss at all.
"old" /F made our server unique and you are now ruing it  :'(

Offline [MAF]Karlis

Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2012, 09:53:05 am »
to be honest i don't see anything wrong about using it as a brake, because full stop to 0 speed always gives time penalty in comparison to normal turn/etc.
only thing where the brake could be useful is when you fly, you could quickly type /f and save yourself few meters to go back or even get on something you would potentially miss without it. in either of those cases you already at least lost a position or 2.
also old /f is a must in stuntmode w/ speed.
maybe buildmode should have an option to disable the braking?

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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2012, 10:03:13 am »
You know I read this thread before testing the new /F out and I was thinking to myself oh god why fix something that ain't broken then I was about to go on a rant and say why change one of the ideas that I made happen. Then I went to test /F out and it is a brilliant idea.

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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2012, 10:16:20 am »
i bumped on one of those SF downhills and my car flipped in the air, but i couldnt do flip because of high speed. i dont know why you changed it, it wasnt abused a lot



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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2012, 10:23:21 am »
its good but people need to get used to it
because we were abusing it
everybody were

Offline [MAF]Cromiell

Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2012, 10:29:47 am »
its good but people need to get used to it
because we were abusing it
everybody were



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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2012, 10:31:39 am »
Felt like stealing your words :L

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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2012, 10:50:01 am »

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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2012, 03:03:10 pm »
to ppl information

this is the OLD /F that we used to have before someone posted video about abusing it in landing jumpss (2008 and so)

then after someone posted a videeo about ppl abusing /f to land perfectly

we had a discussion and figured out to stop ppl abuse /f to land, make it stop car

but now agian flips is like old days, but to totally stop abusing, it is limited

can't be abused to land perfectly after jump
and can't be abused as instant brake

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[04:20:36] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} very annoying in races

[04:20:44] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} knowing game physics

[04:20:56] Mosca [9]:{ffffff} hmm, well, sometimes i crashed on flippers too

[04:21:05] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} you expect car fly away, start to roll overal epic crash

[04:21:15] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} and they just did /f

[04:21:37] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} and ppl behind who expected free space in seconds, hit into car that instantly

[04:21:37] stopped

[04:22:12] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff}  /flip (imo) is meant for when your car is like a turtle, stuck on its back and

[04:22:12] unable to roll over


[04:22:14] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} also

[04:22:19] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} ye

[04:22:27] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} btw remeber old flip

[04:22:34] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} when you wre normal placed

[04:22:36] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} ye

[04:22:36] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} and do /f

[04:22:43] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} car turns upside down

[04:22:46] Mosca [9]:{ffffff} haha it turned you over?

[04:22:47] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} lol really

[04:22:47] New Highscore (1) by [OSR]Draguna who finished 1st in 2:24.706  (Score:+9.63)

[04:22:48] Mosca [9]:{ffffff} lol

[04:22:58] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} well

[04:23:00] [OSR]haubitze [11]:{ffffff} sry

[04:23:01] [OSR]haubitze finished 2nd in 2:38.825 (Score:+8.33)

[04:23:02] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} it does what it says

[04:23:03] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} i mean old one, before it started to stop ppl

[04:23:13] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} i never remember it doing that haha

[04:23:13] [OSR]haubitze [11]:{ffffff} sry agus

[04:23:13] [MWR]Cristian finished 3rd in 2:51.318 (Score:+7.00)

[04:23:15] [FSR]Agus finished 4th in 2:53.369 (Score:+5.65)

[04:23:16] [FSR]Agus [6]:{ffffff} np

[04:23:17] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} before that topic about /flip abuse

[04:23:27] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} in perfect landing

[04:23:31] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} i thought it just didn't make velocity 0

[04:23:38] [OSR]haubitze [11]:{ffffff} it was hardcore ramm

[04:23:39] [OSR]haubitze [11]:{ffffff} D:

[04:23:44] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} old flip was like

[04:23:55] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} air control is more fun

[04:23:55] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} do nothing more than turn car 180 degree

[04:23:59] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} lol

[04:24:06] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} then it was abused in landing jumps

[04:24:12] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} by ghostrider

[04:24:17] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} remeber vid ?

[04:24:22] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} not really

[04:24:23] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} then it was made to stop car

[04:24:25] Głosowanie zostało zakończone! {00B4FF}lvracing{0AFF0A} wygrywa {00B4FF}3{0AFF0A} głosami.

[04:24:26] raketa forced into /AFK (Idle)

[04:24:26] Ze_Colmeia forced into /AFK (Idle)

[04:24:28] [MAF]mooman is now back racing!

[04:24:32] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} maybe i bump that 3 years old topic

[04:24:34] lvracing {00B4FF}by{00FF93} [T5]M0BsT3R   {00B4FF}1.6 Miles  [27/02/2008]

[04:24:34] {FFFF00}1:07.815 by [$annii]NSG[{00FF93}  {00B4FF}  None   

[04:25:40] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} yay i get my own world

[04:25:40] raketa has left the server! ({FF0000}Leaving{AFAFAF}) 84.240.50.169

[04:25:40] Mosca [9]:{ffffff} that place must be crawling with memes right about now then

[04:25:40] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} where

[04:25:45] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} oops moo

[04:25:47] Mosca [9]:{ffffff} 'your' world

[04:25:49] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} 1 more thing

[04:26:01] [OSR]haubitze finished 1st in 1:10.289 (Score:+4.94)

[04:26:01] [MAF]mooman finished 2nd in 1:10.495 (Score:+4.03)

[04:26:01] [OSR]Draguna finished 3rd in 1:10.691 (Score:+2.80)

[04:26:01] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} exclude speed limits in tourney'

[04:26:01] [MWR]Cristian finished 4th in 1:11.037 (Score:+1.90)

[04:26:06] [FSR]Agus finished 5th in 1:16.000 (Score:+0.96)

[04:26:10] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} coz ppl may find unfair

[04:26:10] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} ok

[04:26:12] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} well

[04:26:17] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} i didn't bother to add it to /tt yet

[04:26:20] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} so that works

[04:26:23] Głosowanie zostało zakończone! {00B4FF}SlamvanSeries_4{0AFF0A} wygrywa {00B4FF}2{0AFF0A} głosami.

[04:26:24] *** {0AFF0A}raketa{00FF00} (Lithuania) has joined the server [Registered Player] 0 84.240.50.169

[04:26:30] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} ah so tourney and tt are not affected ?

[04:26:32] SlamvanSeries_4 {00B4FF}by{00FF93} [MAF]mooman   {00B4FF}2.5 Miles  Part 4

[04:26:32] {FFFF00}1:36.104 by [2F2F]DodgeR{00FF93}  {00B4FF}Time Trial  None   

[04:26:32] Ze_Colmeia is now back racing!

[04:26:38] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} no

[04:26:41] MadMax[MAF] has entered /TT

[04:26:42] [Twój rekord] Czas:  1_second_drag - --:--:---

[04:26:43] Mosca [9]:{ffffff} so neither should have stunt

[04:26:43] 1_second_drag by mooman   (18.7 Miles) [19/12/2009] ..or not 

[04:26:43] {FFFF00}11:02.916 by InZaneR {00B4FF}

[04:26:56] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} nice

[04:26:58] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} it wasn't planned to add stunt but stunt uses the same code as race

[04:26:58] [MWR]Cristian has entered /STUNT

[04:26:59] [Twój rekord] Czas:  SlamvanSeries_4 - 1:41.557

[04:26:59] MadMax[MAF] is now back racing!

[04:27:03] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} tt and tourney are separate

[04:27:05] Mosca [9]:{ffffff} ah

[04:27:11] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} can try in tourney too

[04:27:27] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} i mean can access tourney race without competiting

[04:27:47] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} can you

[04:27:50] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} how ?

[04:27:55] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff}  were you ever added

[04:27:58] MadMax[MAF] [24]:{ffffff} no

[04:28:07] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} mosca?

[04:28:13] Mosca [9]:{ffffff} no

[04:28:16] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} hm

[04:28:22] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} i did the coding

[04:28:25] [MAF]mooman [7]:{ffffff} no need to test

and as mooman pointed few post above, speed limit can be made bit higher, ovaral idea is to avoid ppl doing this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmUkjCzGqMo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
« Last Edit: July 16, 2012, 03:50:24 pm by MadMax »

PLEASE, IGNORE ALL MY SPELLING MISTAKES AND OTHER TYPOS True racing fans enjoy horsepower in ANY form

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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2012, 03:17:09 pm »
People don't like change when they're used to something. But change is what keeps the world moving.

I for one like this idea

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Re: Disscusion about new /F
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2012, 04:23:28 pm »
Kill all the jews then. For real, higher speed limit would be fine.