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[MAF]Snoopy:
you could have just said "runty's situation was slightly different because there was more aggression involved"
instead of trying to sound really smart :L
ǝǝǝoſ[sXɐ]:
--- Quote from: Stacey on February 12, 2012, 07:54:16 pm ---
--- Quote from: [aXs]Joeee on February 12, 2012, 07:02:02 pm ---Exactly, that's pretty much what I'm doing here yet I'm not getting banned for it.
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Your use of reasoning takes the context of the situation runty was in, and to compare it to what you are doing here
and this is quite an unfair analogy...
it may be what you are doing here (showing loyalty) can be slightly comparable to runty's situation, but the context and level of aggravation the situation runty was in, is incomparable with what you are standing for here. Hence why you are not banned...
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I know the context differs, since Tom was provoking an already-aggrivated Ush. I believe, however, that ban decisions should be made based on the actual offense, not just the context the offense was committed in. Reading through my posts in this topic, Tom said a lot less to recieve his ban. The only difference is the fact that he said it to a pissed-off Ush, rather than a debating Ush.
For example:
somebody who uses speedhacks on a TT race would deserve just as much punishment as somebody who cheats in a oneworld race. Yet the type of race that's being hacked on differs totally. Different context, same offense.
TL;DR context doesn't matter.
[MAF]MrHess:
--- Quote from: [MAF]Snoops on February 12, 2012, 05:44:47 pm ---
it's just a friend thing at the end of the day. some people like to show their loyalty that's all.
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loyalty should always be towards the server and the rules, not a friend that seems to somehow be funny, wich is actually not fun, just a massive troll. He should never be unbanned, but you guys are so soft I would accept an unban but I would leave him banned for at least 3 more months. He blew it 5 or 6 times already, he is just having a big laugh at the admins that are doing a great job
[MAF]Snoopy:
he didn't show his loyalty in a negative way though (by flaming or being abusive) he stood up for what he believed in. isn't that allowed?
Stacey:
--- Quote from: [MAF]Snoops on February 12, 2012, 08:05:20 pm ---you could have just said "runty's situation was slightly different because there was more aggression involved"
instead of trying to sound really smart :L
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I could've said "runty's situation was slightly different because there was more aggression involved"
but i guess i left you the pleasure of simplifying it for yourself, after all... if i had broken it down, i reckon you would find another issue (if so according to you) to find and complain about :L
i understand "pissed-off Ush, rather than a debating Ush", and i understand that it is hard to hold a neutral position when banning people
Let me quote some other things said by other forum members...
--- Quote from: [MAF]Snoops on February 02, 2012, 12:12:47 am ---because they can't handle his sometimes over the top sense of humour
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Now, handling "over the top sense of humour" and handling uncalled for random insults are different. I recall when i was new on the server (still am) that Runty had said some incredibly grim things and such... like mentioning how i should go to an admin's house and fuck the admin's mother with the admin himself (not mentioning which admin for the sake of it)
Having been banned multiple times already should have gave him a clear heads up for what is coming...
he could've learnt the reasons why he was banned... or maybe he ignored them. But if he has been banned several times already for the same reasons, then he most does deserve a permanent ban despite whether it was a pissed-off ush or a debating-ush
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