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« on: October 17, 2010, 04:45:35 pm »
all tt races in race mode are moved to /tt?

This whole day I have not seen a TT race in the racemode

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Re: TT races
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2010, 04:52:39 pm »
/tt and that will be your answer lol

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Re: TT races
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2010, 06:43:17 pm »
This is fucking bullshit. Fuck this, I simply won't play anymore, tt races did not deserve to get removed. Absolute BS, and modes like GTA IV don't get removed? Ugh

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Re: TT races
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2010, 06:43:51 pm »
they're still in /tt... chill out you are acting like me :D

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Re: TT races
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 06:44:28 pm »
No, I don't like /TT, I like having them in the main race mode. I don't like this at all.

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Re: TT races
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2010, 06:45:47 pm »
they're still in /tt
That is not the same and you know it

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Re: TT races
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2010, 06:50:41 pm »
no need to take it out on me, r said it was a better decision...

i would rather have /tt removed tbh but nobody can be pleased so whatever
« Last Edit: October 17, 2010, 06:52:19 pm by Xplicit »

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Re: TT races
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2010, 08:40:31 pm »
there are 2 solutions:

1.bring them back and delete boring/crap/nothing special ones
(coz with pain i must say, ye, i liked some TTs  :-\, i know it sounds strange from me lol)

or 2nd, better option

2.wait for R he may code sth special(maybe he is working on it now)

remember when MTA maps were too often?
and ppl were complaining that always MTA map


keep TT in racemode and use 2nd folder, so they won't be soo often in voting
« Last Edit: October 17, 2010, 08:54:59 pm by MadMax »

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Re: TT races
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2010, 08:56:46 pm »
(coz with pain i must say, ye, i liked some TTs  :-\, i know it sounds strange from me lol)

i agree. we're losing out on so many good tt races lol =\

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Re: TT races
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2010, 09:00:47 pm »
ok, here what i tough

bring it back like old one
all race is racemode,

and /tt for endurances and Hyrda hard trials single player races, mission races etc
(coz i can't belive Ush will like keeping 200 cps oval in racemode or 100 cps hydra stunts)


here good point is same like MTA maps

make new folder TT (like MAPS) that load races to racemode voting, but with less percentage (remmeber we had complains about only MTA traces in voting??)

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Re: TT races
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2010, 10:45:25 am »
i agree with max's suggestion. imo there should've been a poll before such a drastic decision was made
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Re: TT races
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2010, 11:54:50 am »
I did we'd try it as a trial run. If people don't like it ...........
This is fucking bullshit. Fuck this, I simply won't play anymore, tt races did not deserve to get removed. Absolute BS, and modes like GTA IV don't get removed? Ugh
..... we'll concider bringing it back lol

GTAIV is 58 races (0.1% of the race list), I don't see why people hate it so much, it's 3 minutes of something different.

Btw, I don't like TT. (25% of the race list)

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Re: TT races
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2010, 12:06:49 pm »
TT is only race that provides fair chances to everybody. Why not having it...

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Re: TT races
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2010, 03:40:49 pm »
coz there is fuckin' too much lol, 1/4 or races ale single lol2

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Re: TT races
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2010, 03:51:17 pm »
boring racing alone, i miss the days when we could all race together... now people like tt races because it's blatantly a better chance to set a record, and they can't deny that lol

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Re: TT races
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2010, 03:59:34 pm »
makes me wonder if they would still "LOVE TT" if records in that mode would be disabled  :P

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Re: TT races
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2010, 04:00:23 pm »
haha :P

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Re: TT races
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2010, 04:09:16 pm »
I'm not gonna quit ax, that's a bit much, but this is annoying, the only solution was to delete some TT races, not get rid of them altogether, no1 would have really cared if some were deleted, or even change some TT races into 4 world racing and delete the records, or even change the algorithm so that TT races don't come on as much. GTA IV comes one a fair bit even though there's so little of them, whenever they come on, they just kill off the amount of players, plenty of retards who bail on you, or do fuck all, etc.

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Re: TT races
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2010, 04:12:39 pm »
you keep acting like all tt races have been deleted from the server, no they have just been moved to another mode...

i don't see what the big deal is :S

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Re: TT races
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Re: TT races
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2010, 04:15:26 pm »
the only solution was to delete some TT races, not get rid of them altogether

tt races did not deserve to get removed.

you keep acting like all tt races have been deleted from the server
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Re: TT races
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2010, 04:21:18 pm »
But they have been, from the main racing mode? I don't care about /tt.

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Re: TT races
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2010, 04:23:16 pm »
yeh but you keep making it sound like they've been deleted from the actual server when they've only been moved.

i don't like /tt neither and i think people spend more time in that mode rather than the normal racing mode!

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Re: TT races
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2010, 04:24:14 pm »
Oh semantics...

I know they've only been removed from the main mode, why would they get deleted? I want them moved back, and delete a few or convert them into 4 world racing.

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Re: TT races
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2010, 04:27:53 pm »
that'd be gay deleting tt races completetly just because somebody thinks it's too long etc, we all like different things :/

and r hasn't said this is permanent, he's just trying it out

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Re: TT races
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2010, 04:41:58 pm »
This is just annoying, I thought it was sorted back on that topic you made about it, but it looks like r thought it was a good idea and went along with it. It isn't to some, plenty of people agreed that tt shouldn't be removed.

Also, maybe the reason why there's so many tt races is because people actually liked them? Now that there's too many of them, ye don't like them anymore and the fix to that is to just delete some, or even get rid of /tt because that seems to be related to this, people perfecting records there to get them in the main racing mode, also people raging to /tt during a race, this all added up and this is why this happened.

http://forum.adrenalinex.co.uk/index.php/topic,2395.0.html
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Re: TT races
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2010, 04:44:39 pm »
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Bring back time trail!

*coughs*

well i don't think anybody put a gun to r's head and forced him to like it or change it, as i said before.. he works on hard on this script and if he wants to change something then so be it

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Re: TT races
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2010, 08:27:02 pm »
and neither max or you triggered something in his mind that made him do it?

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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2010, 08:34:32 pm »
didn't make him do anything lol get the fuck off my back ffs, losing my patience with people now... especially you!

he would've seen the problem eventually!

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Re: TT races
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2010, 10:16:54 pm »
I thought that AdrenalineX was a little more democratic ... But it seems not!  :-\

I like to race in /tt mode.. shame about some people that don't have nothing more to do and try begin some conspiracy......


WHAT ABOUT  ALL DRAGS THAT EXIST IN THE SERVER?  DON'T YOU THINK ARE BECOMING TO MUCH? yes, they are....

 
One More Thing I dont care if I get points by doing records /tt, I like TT because is cool for pratice races... handle the car you wanna ... choose the race you wanna.... WITHOUT BEING RAMMED/BLOOKED ALL RACE LONG

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Re: TT races
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2010, 10:23:58 pm »
WHAT ABOUT  ALL DRAGS THAT EXIST IN THE SERVER?  DON'T YOU THINK ARE BECOMING TO MUCH? yes, they are....
« Last Edit: October 18, 2010, 10:37:09 pm by [UK]Joeee »

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Re: TT races
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2010, 10:32:22 pm »
I thought that AdrenalineX was a little more democratic ... But it seems not!  :-\

I like to race in /tt mode.. shame about some people that don't have nothing more to do and try begin some conspiracy......


WHAT ABOUT  ALL DRAGS THAT EXIST IN THE SERVER?  DON'T YOU THINK ARE BECOMING TO MUCH? yes, they are....

 
One More Thing I dont care if I get points by doing records /tt, I like TT because is cool for pratice races... handle the car you wanna ... choose the race you wanna.... WITHOUT BEING RAMMED/BLOOKED ALL RACE LONG

yes let's all quote that post... seriously? >:(

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Re: TT races
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2010, 10:36:04 pm »
I meant the middle part in caps, about the drags, which is true.

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Re: TT races
« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2010, 10:37:12 pm »
drag races are good for auto banning cheaters, fuck it remove all drags if you want more cheaters!

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Re: TT races
« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2010, 10:44:44 pm »
They were removed with the TT races

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Re: TT races
« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2010, 10:51:07 pm »
i know, max is going to add them back but we aren't sure what's going on yet

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Re: TT races
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2010, 10:51:35 pm »
They were removed with the TT races

I'm sure I remember racing at least one since yesterday, but then again, I haven't been racing much this week.

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Re: TT races
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2010, 11:04:17 pm »
i know, max is going to add them back but we aren't sure what's going on yet


as i said, try pleasure everyone

1.
the record whores.
are happy
-add these shit TT back to racemode, so complaining single players can be happy

2.multiplayers racers are happy
-reduce TT appearing percentage in voting menu (like 10% percent of all race, or 5% maybe, so less chance of beeing alone)

3.hardcores are happy
-keep /tt but only with hard hydra races, long 200 cps races etc, just everything that not suits main racemode

4.less people play /tt
-remove record saving from /tt, so tehy race just for their own pleasure, or spend more time in main racemode


hope these 4 points make topic going good way lol
« Last Edit: October 18, 2010, 11:18:10 pm by MadMax »

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Re: TT races
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2010, 11:12:40 pm »
yep ftw ^^


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Re: TT races
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2010, 12:18:26 am »
4.less people play /tt
-remove record saving from /tt, so tehy race just for their own pleasure, or spend more time in main racemode

I agree with the fact that too many people are in /tt, but I disagree with deactivating all of the records. There's some where they just deserve a record. A possible solution I can think of is to limit the amount of time people can spend in /tt to something like 5 hours a week, and if someone goes over their time while in the middle of a race, let them finish the race but block them from rejoining.

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Re: TT races
« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2010, 07:47:47 am »
tt races are definitely not the same as /tt, tt is racing alone and /tt is racing alone and i definitely think /tt isn't that much fun. i like tt races because i like racing without worrying about ramming but not just racing against a list of times and would you believe it i like getting records too lol. if you think about it, racing with other people is the unfairest mode of all but of course, without it, ax'd be boring so i don't mind it. but to have it all the time, well i don't like that either.
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Re: TT races
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2010, 08:19:31 am »
and would you believe it i like getting records too lol.

we all like them, but there's a different between liking them and being obsessed with them lol

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Re: TT races
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2010, 08:31:39 am »
if someone wants to be obsessed it's their choice imo. there'll always be people like that.
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Re: TT races
« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2010, 09:30:55 am »
f you think about it, racing with other people is the unfairest mode of all but of course, without it, ax'd be boring

every racing game is unfair then. we shouldn't have racing games, ahhhhhhhhhh!!

anyway i don't see F1 2010 or any other racing game having a TT mode.......................

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Re: TT races
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2010, 10:28:39 am »
you can get collisions off on that though. and we should have it too soon on sa-mp and then no more problems :D
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Re: TT races
« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2010, 10:39:16 am »
lol people shouldn't play racing games if they can't handle getting rammed by other players or having their vehicles damaged

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Re: TT races
« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2010, 11:09:26 am »
Heheh ye, thats what I think too...
Back to topic:
i know, max is going to add them back but we aren't sure what's going on yet


as i said, try pleasure everyone

1.
the record whores.
are happy
-add these shit TT back to racemode, so complaining single players can be happy

2.multiplayers racers are happy
-reduce TT appearing percentage in voting menu (like 10% percent of all race, or 5% maybe, so less chance of beeing alone)

3.hardcores are happy
-keep /tt but only with hard hydra races, long 200 cps races etc, just everything that not suits main racemode

4.less people play /tt
-remove record saving from /tt, so tehy race just for their own pleasure, or spend more time in main racemode


hope these 4 points make topic going good way lol


Let's give this a try?

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Re: TT races
« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2010, 11:12:33 am »
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Re: TT races
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Re: TT races
« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2010, 01:12:12 pm »
SA-MP has shit sync though, the ramming isn't realistic at all, you can get rammed so much so tt and 4 world racing helps. TT just did not deserve to get totally removed like it did, if max had his way, it'd be constant 1 world races and ovals, that would get old fast.

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-add these shit TT back to racemode, so complaining single players can be happy
ok whatever, 1 world oval races are absolutely awful to some as well. So why not just deal with it instead of getting rid of them. Just get rid of a few or convert them to 4 world instead of getting rid of them altogether, pissing off people who liked them.

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-keep /tt but only with hard hydra races, long 200 cps races etc, just everything that not suits main racemode
This is a great idea.
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-remove record saving from /tt, so tehy race just for their own pleasure, or spend more time in main racemode
Don't know about this. I think maybe limit a track to 3 tries a day before it stops you from abusing it. Something like this.

lol people shouldn't play racing games if they can't handle getting rammed by other players or having their vehicles damaged
It's just the fact that sa-mp's sync doesn't compare to the realistic sync other race games have. It's awful, we need a ghost mode like MTA, but I bet we'd get loads of complaints about this after a while as well.

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Re: TT races
« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2010, 01:15:55 pm »
It's just the fact that sa-mp's sync doesn't compare to the realistic sync other race games have. It's awful, we need a ghost mode like MTA, but I bet we'd get loads of complaints about this after a while as well.

well yeh true, that'd get boring too.. i don't know where the fun would be in that :(
and it's not as bad as it used to be :/

and we raced on oneworld races for years and it never got old did it? i mean i never heard you complain back in the day :P
and i clearly remember everyone loving SK back in the day, and that was oneworld also
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Re: TT races
« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2010, 01:18:41 pm »
I think it would be great, you aren't alone but you don't have to worry about rammers. If we ever get that function, it should replace TT, and then the alone argument isn't valid anymore.

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Re: TT races
« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2010, 01:20:12 pm »
If we ever get that function, it should replace TT, and then the alone argument isn't valid anymore.

perfect :D

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Re: TT races
« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2010, 01:23:55 pm »
Kye only seems to care about RP though, so I doubt we'll ever get it, I tried suggesting it many times but it gets drowned out by loads of stupid RP suggestions.

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« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2010, 01:24:47 pm »
heh imagine if he only cared about racing, think of the possibilities for us :L

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Re: TT races
« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2010, 03:42:49 pm »
that's pretty much what MTA did, and we still don't like it :L

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Re: TT races
« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2010, 03:44:32 pm »
but i think they changed too much and it doesn't feel like san andreas, at least sa-mp still has the san andreas feel to it

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Re: TT races
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2010, 04:00:06 pm »
Yeah MTA is boring, I don't like it for the same reason.

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Re: TT races
« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2010, 10:27:15 pm »
Agree lol, MTA is too much of a sandbox.

I thought i should say my words too, whatever it works or not.

TT should be a part as much as IV is a part of it.IV makes it creepy funny, not kind of tight racing.

Group racing works fine if you have proper people around yourself, i love following someone and taking them out in a chicane turn.But what, id like to recover into upper groups faster without getting rammed.

So when i join the server, i keep getting fucked up by noob worlds.When a TT rolls in i get a high position, then i get a better world... Then we keep racing with groups.I think all the problem is numbers.As Foxy said things can get old without variety, this is a variety too.

People dont care about their records in /TT mode cause nobody hangs around there seriously, people love it when they see a free run records in normal racing sequence.You need to do something to take attention into TT mode, something special.It doesnt even give points does it ?

And as i always say, the general aim.If we work out for noobs, we will get bored from what we do.If we work for professional stuff, well play with less numbers all the time.This is about popularity stuff though.Not much related ^^

Excuses for misunderstandings i mightve created, sleepy as always :p

I forgot to add.

IF youre going to have a huge list of TT races like this, in any way we will have... ADD a "random race" option please, it will be more fun to drive around there.
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Re: TT races
« Reply #59 on: October 22, 2010, 02:35:08 am »
Is tt going to get moved back to the main race mode or what?

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Re: TT races
« Reply #60 on: October 22, 2010, 03:14:55 am »
let me quote my idea once again pls
Back to topic:
i know, max is going to add them back but we aren't sure what's going on yet


as i said, try pleasure everyone

1.
the record whores.
are happy
-add these shit TT back to racemode, so complaining single players can be happy

2.multiplayers racers are happy
-reduce TT appearing percentage in voting menu (like 10% percent of all race, or 5% maybe, so less chance of beeing alone)

3.hardcores are happy
-keep /tt but only with hard hydra races, long 200 cps races etc, just everything that not suits main racemode

4.less people play /tt
-remove record saving from /tt, so tehy race just for their own pleasure, or spend more time in main racemode


hope these 4 points make topic going good way lol


PLEASE, IGNORE ALL MY SPELLING MISTAKES AND OTHER TYPOS True racing fans enjoy horsepower in ANY form

Offline [MAF]mooman

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Re: TT races
« Reply #61 on: October 22, 2010, 12:02:19 pm »
so multiplayer racers are 95% happy and "rec whores" are 5% happy :(
how about
1. put tt races back in main mode
2. remove all races in /tt that are in the main race mode so the only races available in there are difficult/hydra/really long races
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Re: TT races
« Reply #62 on: October 22, 2010, 12:04:10 pm »
^ best idea. Thumbs up!

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Re: TT races
« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2010, 12:07:30 pm »
so multiplayer racers are 95% happy and "rec whores" are 5% happy :(
how about
1. put tt races back in main mode
2. remove all races in /tt that are in the main race mode so the only races available in there are difficult/hydra/really long races

good idea, and remove /tt records from the highscore page again? and possibly limit how tries people can have in /tt like we used to have. and also remove ''player has entered has entered /tt'' maybe if we never seen anybody going into /tt and spending all day in there it wouldn't have bothered anybody, maybe :D

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Re: TT races
« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2010, 12:09:42 pm »
effort removing them :/

if we just hid all the tt messages except maybe the records then the spam would go away

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Re: TT races
« Reply #65 on: October 22, 2010, 12:14:16 pm »
true so keep it the way it used to be and remove the message, it can't annoy anybody then :D

yeh we have to keep recordings showing so we can see a /tt cheater :p

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Re: TT races
« Reply #66 on: October 22, 2010, 02:57:04 pm »
maybe let the message, => when a unknown player bezat top1 , it could be hax and players can notice it

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Re: TT races
« Reply #67 on: October 22, 2010, 07:12:57 pm »
yeh true, i don't really want to know if anyone goes into /tt or if anybody is in that mode what so ever i hate it lol

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Re: TT races
« Reply #68 on: October 22, 2010, 11:26:30 pm »
so multiplayer racers are 95% happy and "rec whores" are 5% happy :(
how about
1. put tt races back in main mode
2. remove all races in /tt that are in the main race mode so the only races available in there are difficult/hydra/really long races

Done.

also randomized tt race lasttimes in the db to the last 5 days so there won't be a flood of tt races in the vote menu

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Re: TT races
« Reply #69 on: October 22, 2010, 11:28:55 pm »
coolio!

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Re: TT races
« Reply #70 on: October 22, 2010, 11:52:11 pm »
nice one pod :)
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Re: TT races
« Reply #71 on: October 22, 2010, 11:54:54 pm »

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Re: TT races
« Reply #72 on: October 23, 2010, 04:08:25 am »
woo podster ftw

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Re: TT races
« Reply #73 on: October 23, 2010, 05:13:51 am »
Well done pod  :)