Topic: Obama's Health Care Reform Plans

[[MAF]Sighmoan]

Please try and keep this on topic. If you have nothing sensible to post, please refrain.

Thrasher, you on here?

[[MAF]Cthulhu]

i dont see any obama's health care reform plans here....  

[[MAF]Sighmoan]

Not yet. But me, Firefox and thrasher were having, or trying to have, a reasonably serious chat about it on the server last night.

Thrasher, does this all sound about right, so i can get a better understanding of it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8160058.stm

[[FSR]Ush]

Situation is urgent.

Health Care is one of worst disorganized sectors in the USA, at least that's what I hope for them. I'm not an expert of America.

[[MAF]Sighmoan]

I was hoping thrasher would comment, but i guess the moment has passed.

[[MAF]mooman]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgqqSHr0wVA[/youtube]

[some_punk]

is the new reform bad or good??

in Mexico, we think that USA has the best health services (hospitals, vacinnes, etc etc).... in deed when a "artist" (actor, singer, etc) get sick, they run to USA to the best hospitals, cuz even in private hospitals in mexico are not too enough good ... and public hospitals are awful.. U_u

whats happen in USA?? i heard that everyone hates obama.... lol...

[[FSR]Ush]

is the new reform bad or good??

in Mexico, we think that USA has the best health services (hospitals, vacinnes, etc etc)...

European countries have many better Health Care systems.. e.g. Netherlands...

[[MAF]Sighmoan]

European countries have many better Health Care systems.. e.g. Netherlands...

What is the healthcare system there? Is it all on insurance or free like the NHS in the UK?

[[FSR]Ush]

Well it's not a perfect system.

It's based on insurances yes, hold by private health insurance companies. But the government keeps an eye on it.
Everyone is insured and if you can't pay the government will help you they put money in the system too.

You have different packages... you have a basic insurance(that's for everyone) and next to that you can insure yourself for some optional things like.. physiotherapy.

Read something about the Dutch healthcare system here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_the_Netherlands

It differs from the NHS, but I dunno how much(don't know much about your system). But one question raises in my head, how do you guys pay for the NHS?
In the Netherlands everyone pays about 100 euro per month for a basic insurance.

[[MAF]mooman]

it's paid for by taxes.

[Thrasher]

oh wow this is the first I saw of this

I'm really not a politically charged person at all, but the way I see it, the government fucks up social security/medicare/medicaid/fannie mae/everything they get their greedy fucking hands on so why would I have faith in Obama's new plan?

[[MAF]falky]

It's passed: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul

[[FSR]Ush]

For whom is it gonna be better and for whom not ?

[Thrasher]

It basically fucks working people like me because all the lazy cocksuckers around here that have 10 kids and no job that live on handouts will be getting one. It's great for the government though because it's another enormous source of money they can launder from.

If he signs this shit I am gone. GONE!!